Does Reinforcement Learning Really Incentivize Reasoning Capacity in LLMs Beyond the Base Model?
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Summary
Reinforcement Learning with Verifiable Rewards (RLVR) is widely credited with giving LLMs new reasoning skills in math and code. This paper tests that belief. Instead of average accuracy, the authors use pass@k at large k (up to 256–1024 samples) as a proxy for a model's reasoning boundary: the set of problems it can solve at all. They compare base models with their RLVR-trained versions across several model families and sizes (Qwen2.5, LLaMA-3.1), six RL algorithms, and math, coding and visual-reasoning benchmarks. RLVR models win when k is small, but base models catch up and overtake them as k grows. Accuracy-distribution and perplexity analyses show that the reasoning paths of RLVR models already appear in the base model's own outputs. So RLVR makes sampling more efficient but does not add new capability, and the solvable range can even shrink during training. Distillation from a stronger teacher, by contrast, does widen this range. For anyone fine-tuning reasoning models, the takeaway is that current RLVR mostly redistributes probability mass. Better exploration, process-level rewards, curated data at scale and multi-turn agentic RL are proposed as the way forward.
Key points
- Metric: pass@k counts a problem as solved if any of k samples is correct. Base models beat RLVR models at large k on AIME24, MATH500, Minerva, OlympiadBench, GSM8K and AMC23, for Qwen2.5-7B/14B/32B and LLaMA-3.1-8B.
- Narrowing during training: with GRPO on Omni-MATH-Train for Qwen2.5-7B (checkpoints at steps 150, 300 and 450), pass@1 goes up while pass@256 goes down.
- Sampling efficiency gap (ΔSE): this is the RL model's pass@1 minus the base model's pass@256. It stays large and nearly the same across six algorithms, including PPO, GRPO and Reinforce++, so none of them comes close to the base model's potential.
- Perplexity/coverage: the base model assigns high likelihood to the outputs of RLVR models, which suggests RLVR introduces no new reasoning patterns.
- Distillation differs: models distilled from a stronger teacher reach above the base model's pass@k ceiling. Project page: limit-of-RLVR.github.io.
Cited by
- Beyond the 80/20 Rule: High-Entropy Minority Tokens Drive Effective Reinforcement Learning for LLM Reasoning
- InternVL3.5: Advancing Open-Source Multimodal Models in Versatility, Reasoning, and Efficiency
Cite
@misc{yue2025does,
title = {{Does Reinforcement Learning Really Incentivize Reasoning Capacity in LLMs Beyond the Base Model?}},
author = {Yue, Yang and Chen, Zhiqi and Lu, Rui and Zhao, Andrew and Wang, Zhaokai and Yue, Yang and Song, Shiji and Huang, Gao},
year = {2025},
doi = {10.48550/arxiv.2504.13837},
eprint = {2504.13837},
archivePrefix = {arXiv},
url = {https://doi.org/10.48550/arxiv.2504.13837}
}References
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