Evaluating Language Models as Synthetic Data Generators
Paper · 2025 · Seungone Kim, Juyoung Suk, Xiang Yue et al.
Summary
Synthetic data now drives much of language model post-training. Earlier data-generation studies, however, each used different generator LMs, data volumes, student models and benchmarks, so their results cannot be compared to show which LM produces the most useful training data. Kim et al. address this with AgoraBench, a controlled benchmark in which the generator is the only variable. It spans nine settings: three domains (math, code, instruction-following) crossed with three methods (instance generation, response generation, quality enhancement). Each setting fixes the seed data, the meta-prompt and the number of generated examples. Every synthetic set is used to fine-tune Llama-3.1-8B. The metric, Performance Gap Recovered (PGR), measures what share of the improvement from Llama-3.1-8B to Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct the student achieves. Across six generators, each model proved strongest in a different niche. Problem-solving skill predicted data-generation skill poorly, while a combination of intrinsic data features predicted it better. Practitioners can use the benchmark to choose a generator based on evidence for a given method and budget.
Key points
- The experiments produced 1.26M synthetic training instances from six generators (GPT-4o, GPT-4o-mini, Claude-3.5-Sonnet, Llama-3.1-Instruct 8B/70B/405B) and trained 99 student models. Code, checkpoints and data are available at github.com/neulab/data-agora.
- For creating new instances, GPT-4o led with a PGR of +46.75%, compared with +24.14% for Claude-3.5-Sonnet and +10.10% for Llama-3.1-405B-Instruct. For improving existing data, Claude-3.5-Sonnet led with +17.89%, ahead of GPT-4o (+6.69%) and GPT-4o-mini (+5.49%).
- Weaker solvers can be better generators. For code instance generation, Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct reached +55.69%, while Claude-3.5-Sonnet reached +23.43%.
- Five principal components derived from intrinsic metrics (instruction difficulty, response quality, response perplexity, diversity) explain 93.4% of the variance in PGR. A regression on these components is significant (p < 0.001) but only moderately predictive (R² = 0.325).
- Most experiments used 10K instances per setting and a single base model, Llama-3.1-8B. Preliminary scaling tests with cheaper generators went up to 50K instances.
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Cite as Seungone Kim, Juyoung Suk, Xiang Yue, Vijay Viswanathan, Seongyun Lee, Yizhong Wang, Kiril Gashteovski, Carolin Lawrence, Sean Welleck and Graham Neubig. 2025. Evaluating Language Models as Synthetic Data Generators. Proceedings of the 63rd Annual Meeting of the Association for Computational Linguistics (Volume 1: Long Papers).
@inproceedings{kim2025evaluating,
title = {{Evaluating Language Models as Synthetic Data Generators}},
author = {Seungone Kim, Juyoung Suk, Xiang Yue, Vijay Viswanathan, Seongyun Lee, Yizhong Wang, Kiril Gashteovski, Carolin Lawrence, Sean Welleck and Graham Neubig},
booktitle = {Proceedings of the 63rd Annual Meeting of the Association for Computational Linguistics (Volume 1: Long Papers)},
year = {2025},
doi = {10.18653/v1/2025.acl-long.320},
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